Loaded with a hard cast 250 gr bullet at about 1050. Commander. At 50yds not much will walk away from a hit with that bullet. No thanks. A 22 may kill a mountain lion, but a 44 magnum will kill their soul as well. They come in 45 Win Mag and 50 AE as well. Not enough bullet weight. A moose attacked me on my property when I first moved here, but it was because I was trying to get close enough for a good picture really DUMB! The 454 would probably be better and I did have a 500 S&W in 4 inch but as heavy as it was I figured it was easier to carry a 12 ga pump on a sling and let someone carry out the meat while I protected them. The animal became a little wobbly and went to a tree then moved toward Paul again and it was shot a second time. The .45 Colt makes a formidable handgun cartridge, especially in a pistol as strong as the Blackhawk, where the pressures and velocities can be ramped up a bit. After all that I have come to some conclusions about killing things with a handgun. In the middle of our camps we kept a ready shotgun on a small folding table so if a quick exit from the tents was called for, everyone at least know where that one was. thanx again. Answer (1 of 2): Plenty of them. Yes I admit this was a freak happening. Until just a few few years ago, the largest bear ever killed was by a young girl in Alaska. Now that is change of Biblical proportions. I would rather have a .44 mag with a 6 barrel or the 454 Casull but it was a practical upgrade and is light enough with 5 rounds to carry on long hikes. ; Dog breeds that are large, powerful, and possess protective instincts, like the German Shepard, are excellent dogs to have . Certain poisons meant to kill rodents, called anti-coagulant rodenticides, end up in the tissues of mountain lions. Lions are very powerful and usually kill large animals, such as deer and elk. The Hornady 325gr Leverevolution is a whole different story. For self defense/house protection/ Robert Rourke famously said, Use enough gun.. Almost all .460s are semi-autos. As an outdoorsman, I enjoy being afield in all sorts of capacities. OMG! A lion's natural life span is probably about 12 years in the wild and up to 25 years in captivity. Outdoors. Do you have a problem with this model? I also have a small Freedom Arms in .500 Wyoming Express. double action using 250gr. 200gr LRN out of my G29 or EAA Elite Match. The only explanation that I can think of is that it was pumped full of adrenaline. Capable yet not-overpowered, accurate and easy-to-control except in aluminum framed 2" snubnose versions, it remains a solid choice for discrete carry and pleasure shooting days at the local target range. I had a face off not far from lake Iliamna with that combo and would not have traded it for the world. 07-11-2013, 08:10 AM. Perfect gun to have, I dont own one to date but I would love to have a monster K frame, you could practice with 45 long Colts. I learned more in this article about wildlife and practical sidearms than any other article to date in thirty-five plus years. I saw one 200 yards from my home while deer hunting several years ago. Buffalo bore and underwood make fmj,hardcast and exteme hunter ammo. Full power 10mm anyone? Humans travel about 21MPH tops.. Bears.. 35mph.. But so Even had to qualify with it if you carried it as part of your job duties. Thanx! A single bite around the throat from a mountain lion can be fatal to prey . In fact, a shot from a .357 caliber revolver or a shotgun at close range is more likely to kill a mountain lion than an accidental discharge . This would include insanely lar. Both are excellent sidearms but leave something to be desired when confronting big game in the boonies. For actual hunting a big bear, 375 H&H; I guess I love the classics. I havent tried it, but maybe a cut down .454 case to .45 Colt length would help with that. We now have on earth more humans than were ever born since the beginning of mans evolution and with the masses of excess pollution we have already destroyed the planet we are living on. The cougar was probably at the end of the rage stage, where attacks on almost anything are common. I have killed over 140 head of big game in Australia, waterbuffalo, moose, elk, deer, antelope, hogs, exotics, many black bear, and one charging brown bear in Alaska at 5 feet with a hand gun. When it comes to the coastal brown bear, thats a whole different animal. While mountain lion attacks are rare, it is because mountain lions are not common, and interactions between mountain lions and humans are uncommon. In the question of "Is the .22 LR Long Rifle within the ideal range of suitable calibers for cougar or . Im curious as to why you only show five rounds of .45 LC with your Ruger. They called me to come over and look at the tracks. Companions showed up shooting to save the day. The video shows the mountain lion sneaking up around a corner behind an unsuspecting deer and rapidly tackling it to the ground, before dragging it off by its neck. Under normal circumstances, the lion would have returned to eat the prey. The Freedom Arms Model 83, in .454 Casull, in a serious piece of gear. A large caliber handgun is a must. That combo gets exceptional penetration you just have to have a revolver that can handle it like that the Ruger, Freedom Arms, etc. I have had to kill a couple Grizzlies, and have had numerous Mexican stand offs, over moose or caribou kills. Related Tags: To recap quickly, Phil and his husband and wife fishing clients were walking through some thick brush to approach the stream they wanted to fish, when they heard a deep woof and realized they had a bear close and angry. Your wife and kids will thank you. Carrying a 9mm, 10mm, 45 acp, etc. Very interesting. Even with the hottest 460 I find the revolver to be controllable. A black bear sow protecting a cub from your invasion of their space will have her way with you till she decides shes done. You combine the penetration of .45 Long Colt with the facial (and nose) disruption of a .410 shotgun shell. If there is any wind at all, the fog will only travel about 3 feet before it turns and drifts in the direction of the wind. Bears do not like facing off with skunks because their nose and eyes are two of their more sensitive parts. The way I see it there exists no substitute for accuracy, proper shot placement, and Carry the biggest freaking Gun you can shoot very very well ! Alfredo Gonzalez, 60 . The bfr is very easy shooting postal and extremely accurate. A revolver is a one threat gun so unless you are Jerry Miculek you will run out of ammo with a revolver. Why not? He put his paw on his shoulder. An old farm fence stopped the bear at 11 yards and gave me the chance to get that cap on. RIP ammo is fine against flesh, as in human flesh. In my penetration testing I also included a 30 Tokarev as from my experiences in Vietnam I knew they were great penetrators. People started carrying bear spray in that area. Worse is the comment on using a .38 Spl in bear country is better then no gun: BS, if your not prepared, dont go! A long barrel revolver or pistol in very close quarters. However, the realization that you might have to use one to defend against a couple-hundred pounds of teeth and fangs doesnt exactly make one feel like Zorro; in fact, I looked down at it and said to myself:This is gonna hurt. Bears, wild critters, thats all very nice and fluffy. I will take it to heart and now that Ive learned the 4 3 1 rule Ill not forget it, and not fail to abide by it while in bear country, and quite probably every time Im hunting. Use a handgun. Self-Defense, May 12, 2018. Unfortunately, an enraged bear will knock you down before your gun clears leather. took advantage of this for their hike the following day. When they were hunted with dogs in the 1950s and 60s, many were shot with .22 rimfire cartridges from both rifles and pistols. Native to the Americas, the puma, also called the mountain lion, cougar, catamount or panther, often shares its habitat with several other top predators, such as wolves, bears, coyotes and jaguars. Packing out is much less distance here in Wyoming where we huntbut the bears here seem to have much less fear of humans than they did in Alaska. Phil has over three decades of experience guiding hunters and fishermen, and understands their habits as well as anyone else alive. Laboratory work several days after the attack would have indicated rabies. Teardrop-shaped toes. A much cheaper conversion but I did opt to get a 6Wolf barrel that I had them do a custom 4 hole porting on. There were teams of men racing across Alaska. With bears you keep shooting until it stops moving your survival depends on tossing allot of big, heavy lead very fast. Its getting to be real world, daily and wont get better until folks like us step up and step forward. That being said i would still rather has a single action 44 mag or 45 colt than a 9mm for bear defenseanyday! The reverse is not true. Mountain lions are normally very secretive and cautious. I have several 44 mags a .41, .45 Colt and 8 different .357s in various types and the 329PD is lightweight and with the 225s is heavy medicine for bears. I have yet to set foot in Alaska, but I have many friends and colleagues who either live there, or have significant hunting experience in the 49th state, where encounters with brown bears can honestly represent the hunter becoming the hunted. Surprisingly, I had to shoot it THREE times in the head, from INCHES away before it died. I know there are some folks out there that carry handguns in the bush, but in a dozen years I didnt meet many, either agency folks or sportsmen. 9MM hollow points will kill anything in Texas short of a feral hog. That winter, I shot a buffalo @ 50 yards with 300 grain federal cast core in a ruger .44 carbine. Being aware that sounds and smell plays a role in a bears survival by detecting prey, keep food or harvested deer meat or other game tightly contained as it would be analogous to swimming in blood filled water with man-eating sharks. Maybe a man purse could hold 2 #s of C4? The Smith & Wesson 329 PD is by far the best handgun choice for self-defense against bears and boars while out and about in the woods. When I fleshed the bear skull I filled a 5 gallon bucket with muscle meat from the skull. I have been carrying my 1911 or my Taurus PT-92 for years and know what each round can do as a former US Army medic. They have been most noted in the mountains of California but had, at one time, been found across North and South America. For those not familiar with this gun, think Dirty Harry. The .44 Magnum is definite bear medicine. I bought Bear Loads in .45 LC and .357 MAG, but they were both hollow points (300 & 180 grains, respectively). Did they field dress and later skin it ? Into a wheel gun ! A couple of quick .25s to the knee of your brother in law ought to make that possible. I sure wanted to sit and talk to him about all the storys they brought back. CCIs classic .38 Special shot or snake It was there all night and broke its leg, trying to get free. The 357 mag is much better then the 40S&W as well. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Keith by Buffalo Bore . Do I want to use one as my sidearm? You would have had until between the 8 and the 6 to be unloading a gun into it , and still possibly wind up injured ! 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