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In this letter, the North American District Superior of the FSSP, the Rev. Tacoma, WA Simon Harkins, FSSP as we begin the conversation on August 31st, featuring a fascinating interview with Abby Johnson on her pro-life work and her recent discovery of the beauty of the sacred liturgy. Mater Dei Catholic Parish 2030 East State Highway 356 Irving, TX 75060 Phone: (972) 438-7600 Email: - info@materdeiparish.com Naples, FL (Remember, divine mercy had been condemned 3 times.) God bless you both and pray for me. 1 reason is the position we take. I dont say any of this as a criticism of those attending and supporting SSPX chapels, or even their clergy, which also includes some fine priests. Nor are they interested in arguments. Will the FSSP issue a public statement in support of the SSPX and debunk the schism myth? Tyler, TX This has had supplied jurisdiction written all over it from day one, and to current, and we didnt need to have the Pope tell us this, but it ought to help the royally confused like CMTV and co. that said, no Catholic at any time ought ever to turn their back on another Catholic.. Our only fault is that we have not taken this position. It was also taken in response to related concerns that Father Saguto had failed to observe the safe environment protocols of the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis for interaction with minors (e.g. I dont know what changed his mind regarding the SSPX, but whatever or whomever it is has him hooked good. As our Lord taught, governed, and sanctified by His physical Body that He took of our Lady overshadowed by the Holy Ghost, so He continues to do now with His Mystical Body, the Church, overshadowed by the Holy Ghost on Pentecost. I think it sometimes gives them scruples. God bless you. As this unfolds, we lose sight of the individual trees that make up the forest. 1 of the problems we have is that if your a traditional catholic bad wording but you know what i mean then what tends to happen is you end up in one of those groups in my comment lower down. Father Gerard Saguto, F.S.S.P. There is a way to point out the faults of others. Dear grandfather of. In the event that a request were made in the future, the present restrictions on Father Sagutos ministry could only be lifted after our normal review process, which would have to include a recommendation from the Ministerial Review Board of the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis, Archbishop Hebda added. Nothing is credible in the Church apart from Christ who lives in it with us; if we do not believe Christ is God, then we never believe in the truths that flow from that and have had tremendous impact on us the Holy Trinity, the Holy Eucharist, the Resurrection, the forgiveness of sins. than we do. There is no other way for mankind to have been saved and redeemed except through the sacrificial offering of God Himself, totally innocent and obedient, to God the Father. The Society and its faithful simply stayed Catholic such as it has always been and always will be in spite of the conciliar revolution. Rather, a home is ultimately an interaction between personalities that are supposed to be loving each other spouses, parents, children, siblings, grandparents. Thomas Paprocki. Take any good news with a grain of salt when it comes from modernists. *** Father Gerard Saguto, District Superior, FSSP "The thought-filled articles of Latin Mass provide an opportunity for needed reflection to help the thoughtful Catholic navigate the gauntlet of our modern secular society." Monsignor Barreiro Don't forget to buy yourself a copy here! OBITUARIES. Saguto, FSSP is the District Superior for the North American District of the Fraternity of St. Peter, and gives retreats, conferences, and days of reflection across the country. 3rd group those that choose only to attend TLM except for funerals weddings etc. The way they advise individuals is highly personalized. I talk to a lot of people In and about the Fraternity. Don't forget to buy yourself a copy here! LiveMass.Net Most of the time unfortunately it falls into a type of group. I disagree with you, however, that the FSSP should be avoided. Lets revisit what Voris (and Fr. Questions: The Missive Tags: Catholic Extraordinary Form, FSSP, Tridentine Mass Catholics are STILL watching and waiting. Edmonton, AB I assume, perhaps wrongly, that anyone who engages in any way with the Dimonds espouses their stance against Church teaching on BOD and BOB & other things I'll not mention here but you know what they are , I hope. To be a contributing part of this effort requires that our Lord possesses a key place in our hearts. Gerard Saguto (US District Superior) and Fr. Philadelphia, PA Do they disagree with Voris? 8:00am Preparation for Mass*. Both Verrecchio and Voris are about exactly my age born at the tail end of the American baby boomers and although not a bit as courageous or knowledgeable in the faith as them, I really commiserate with both their stories. We laughed hard. The FSSP are bad actors. rich, Please keep in mind that I am speaking only for myself. Gemma Bradac is an All Saints parishioner located in Hudson, WI, willing to travel up to 30 minutes for a family. The central issue & question to be asked is: Is that religion which is currently observed in Vatican overseen dioceses worldwide the Catholic religion? That constancy, Father Saguto said, is important in a world where constant change is the norm. Positively, perspective and vigor can also be reclaimed by personal initiative and vigilance to make sure we do not get into ruts with the things that are supposed to be most important, that we are mindful of the obvious in such matters (kind of ironic when you hear it said that way). When Pope John Paul II had the Assisi meeting Archbishop Lefebvre pleaded with the good Cardinals like Siri and Oddi to make a public protest to defend the honor of the Church. Sadly SSPX faithful went to a FSSP Priest (who I wont name) with problems in their marriages and the FSSP told these Catholics YOU ARE NOT MARRIED so sadly original sin being what it is one of the spouses took advantage of the error of the FSSP Priest left the family. The manner in which certain of the staff at ChurchMilitant.com, the FM College Administration and local FSSP clergy conducted themselves during the disgracing of the school suggests to me that the whole affair informed, hardened or turned the sympathies now on display at CM.com. Be convinced that He always leaves His runaways with a key to get back into the house. He also is a member of that parish, and the words he used to describe Fr. Wolfe FSSP is true and public. BTW, thanks for the link to the tradcatknight. But who gets to determine where the standard of Christ is planted? Their stuff & stance is indicative of the serious problem with the FSSP-that being they are fully signed on to the Modernist Sect & are part of it. I pray the chaplet everyday at 3-00oclock God willing. GOD did it 2. Terra as hes still not quite 100% in his health. From Archbishop Bernard A. Hebda: I was notified Friday, November 8 that Father Gerard Saguto, FSSP, was recalled from his assignment as pastor of the Church of All Saints in Minneapolis by his religious community, the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter. I, for one, have found so many polite & dear empathetic souls here on Mr. V.s site who treat me wth tender kindness even on my worst days, and would never even think of bringin up my myriad flaws & throw them in my face. In our troubled times, make it a personal initiative through Advent (and perhaps beyond) to invoke the Holy Ghost daily, that He indeed stirs up this treasure-chest of graces we hold within ourselves and our families. Chesapeake, VA While every home has its own mix of dysfunction, the anger and frustration displayed by those raised in more dysfunctional ones reveals this innate sense of what was to be expected. **********Breaking News********** What I am not getting into is the subjective faith and morals of the Priests of the FSSP and the laymen who attend their parishes. (Both Voris and Marshall refer to JPII and John XXIII as saints - big red flag!). Member of the traditionalist Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter. As dysfunctional as the Church can be in her human element and she is it is perfect love of Christ Crucified, our Eternal Contemporary as Ven. That said, we disagree on the points you bring up. Home Base - Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter Home Base by Fr. They do beleive a pope can be a formal herectic and maintain his postion as pope , the new mass is valid all priests are considered vailidy ordained and the bishops in the new rite are fine aswell. Enter Terry Carroll his self-appointed Executive Producer the same guy that bought Mike and CMTV a building at a time when they were about to find themselves without a studio and precious little resources for securing a new one. Father Gerard Saguto, F.S.S.P. I dont follow Mr. Voris. Colorado Springs, CO Saguto, time for adoration and confessions, and a Rosary walk. And to do it using the lame excuse that one is trying to speak the truth and warn others is to be blind to ones true motives. 3 options 1. Only God can do that. Your question- poignantly phrased- touches on the experience of many a trad. or Will they remain under the standard of Satan? Montreal, QC All in all, the time table laid out herein is accurate. There is no doctrine, no moral apart from Him who declares Himself to the be the Truth. Regarding group #5, you said 5th group SSPX RESISTENCE 2012/2013 these are mostly priests that belong to the SSPX. There is a schismatic attitude in the fact of consecrating bishops without pontifical mandate. Saguto is an excellent priest but he needs to stop perpetuating this lie and he needs to order his priests to do the same. The authorities of the FSSP have been notified about all this just as Father Paul Nicholsons Bishop was about his demonic actions. Clearly many of them have the Faith and are holy. Hopefully, the non una-cum SSPX priests will make the courageous move after the *nothing* in October. This reality does in fact place the FSSP under the standard of Satan objectively. Not good enough for some here. There are disagreements (none of which involve Doctrine or Dogma it must be emphasized,) which can only be resolved by the Authority of One to Whom the Authority of the Keys has been given by virtue of lack of any impediment, IOW a reigning pontiff who is protected by the Holy Ghost from giving the faithful anything contrary to the Faith, even within the exercise of the Universal Ordinary Magisterium. Heres the truth: The SSPX refuses to sign a statement saying the Vatican II is an integral part of the tradition of the Church. It is this to which they refuse to submit, not the legitimate authority of the pope. Lets be clear these men (again, including the pope) are not synonymous with the Church; rather, they are, objectively speaking, laboring for her destruction. On its face, this isnt a difficult distinction to comprehend, but the reason so many find it difficult is very simple: As Catholics we are wired to follow our leaders, especially the pope, just as a child is wired to trust its mother. We are all fighting for the faith in one way or another. Well, I suppose I am one of them, then though I would characterize myself as more than prefer since I exclusively attend the TLM (save for an occasional Melkite liturgy, I suppose), either through an Ecclesia Dei society or diocesan priest, depending on where I am. Dear de Maria nunquam satis, Gruner was yet, so I looked past it in ignorance. Where to begin? I am not a follower of the Dimonds, may God forbid. Youre free to believe so if youd like, but I dont. No status means just that none. Whatever happens in October affects not Holy Mother Church. ******** 1st group attend the new mass at local parishes this ranges from sunday catholics too conservative and everything in between can comprise of people who dont make good use of the sacraments to parish council types , eucharistic ministers etc. "I think today a lot of those devotions are missed," Father Stinson said. Denver, CO Fr. Either way . There is also, to borrow Voris words, an objective case of jurisdiction, and the legal/subjective case of jurisdiction. Opus dei (small d) is the lace connecting all the dots of the CMTV operation that not many people appear to be willing to look into. German-speaking Chaplain Father Gerald Gesch. Allentown, PA This isnt the behavior of a man who had a change of heart based on a new awareness of truth. The suit states Father Bouchard's accuser submitted a handwritten note to the diocese on Sept. 26, 2018, alleging that Father Bouchard "asked him to undress and made inappropriate sexual . Servant of our lady i looked at your two links and read them again. The FSSP parish runs a school and the local diocese enforces a policy that all adults who work with children must have a criminal background check and fingerprint search. For these past years weve all been discussing how Pope Francis couldnt care less about dogma, doctrine, rules and rubrics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX75xiW2Z54. Saguto for his work as District Superior of North America since 2015. Their website didnt say where he was going. Iv read and listened to lots of different people speak against this devotion but it never changed my mind. Fr. Fr. hi, scott, Ignorance is bliss. Sacramento, CA A great film and you posted it on St. Joseph of Cupertinos feast day! For those who are fans of the old Far Side comic strip by Gary Larson, part of his brilliance was his ability to capture how humanity is prone to missing the obvious. NEWSPAPERS. Confraternity of St. Peter A cardinal such as Cardinal Burke should speak the truth no matter what the modernist destroyers want. FSSP Missions Maple Hill, KS It can happen from a negative event; that is, when someone or something becomes threatened in such a way that forces us to look at it with the attention it deserves. All in mortal sin? 5th group SSPX RESISTENCE 2012/2013 these are mostly priests that belong to the SSPX. No they did not. In the end, Michael can protest that Terry Carrolls money has no part in this all he wants, but only a willing fool can believe it. Louie, your excellent blog is being hijacked. There can be room for disagreement but not when its Our Lord Himself speaking. Therefore, the Church cannot be considered as something that stands between me and Christ, as so often is alleged. Father John Marcus Berg, F.S.S.P. Tulsa, OK The priest claimed that his superior forbid him from submitting to fingerprinting and that out of obedience he had to refuse to follow the diocesan policy. I pray that Catholics (on BOTH sides of this issue) read your response and learn that the real enemies of Our Lord love confusion and division. If I do, in fact, belong to an exclusive club, I would hope it would be as a Catholic faithful who adheres to the unchanging tenets of the Catholic Church as Christ established it. That said, I do no wish to engage you there, but others might want to- with regard to this. I know a fair number of Fraternity priests, and they are among the finest priests I have ever met. This is the will of God, your sanctification (1 Thess 4:3). Who do you say that I am? It answers a lot of questions I had in my mind. your above comments are quite smug and patronizing. Why all the differences in opinion here ??. sedevacantists dont believe the chair of peter is vacant theres no different/various groups within the sedevacantist movement. ***That said, this includes those who wish to be Catholic. The clerics involved in the taken down of Fisher Moore College and these many attacks on the SSPX need to seek out an exorcist. marian, We are loathe to believe that our leaders could possibly mislead us, even to the point where certain propositions set forth in an ecumenical council are a danger to the faith. Indeed, the extent and depth of the teaching of the Second Vatican Council call for a renewed commitment to deeper study in order to reveal clearly the Councils continuity with Tradition, especially in points of doctrine which, perhaps because they are NEW, have not yet been well understood by some sections of the Church.. Louie, your blog does not rise and fall by my participation. the point central to the sedevacantist position -that being the Roman Catholic Religion. ), Supporters of the Society are also discouraged from participating even in FSSP settings because the FSSP accepts Vatican II.. Tags: Catholic Extraordinary Form, FSSP, Tridentine Mass You have entered an incorrect email address! We wait for the coming of the Son of God-made-Man, the focal point of all history, the only God there is, born to hang on a Cross and redeem us from our sins. I can see where its slightly off, but no more. Voris and Fisher more college are just the latest in a long line of horrors. The FSSP is wrong on the doctrine,principles and the new mass. He pretends he never believed anything other than what he spews today. And for conversions we pray for, remember that among the Christian denominations there is only one Baptism it belongs to the Catholic Church so ask the Holy Ghost to stir up in them the courage to see where the blind spots are in their profession of faith. Besides its probable connection to ChurchMilitant.coms zeal against the SSPX, the unraveling of Fisher More College (the presidents fiscal leadership aside) is a stark study just how quickly Church power will coalesce to suppress an institution whose express mission is Traditional Catholic Formation (unless of course the institution was grandfathered in and has swallowed every conciliar tenet proffered since grandfather died). It must be pointed out that validity is not the central issue. This is the SSPX argument with respect to supplied jurisdiction. North American Martyrs Parish is a Roman Catholic parish in Edmonds, Washington, served by the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter (FSSP). Voris- shmoriswho cares? Oklahoma City, OK Denton, NE (Seminary) Dear Scott, Their jurisdiction is supplied by cannon law because they beleive there is a state of emergency in the church because people are in danger of losing the catholic faith. Philip Wolfe, FSSP. A commenter on Twitter recently asked me if I am "officially a sedevacantist.". Can we just let Michael Voris get on with his shtick? Voris has so applied his intellect. 1:00pm Keynote Speaker - Dr. Robert Loretz. I will say this: Stay away from the FSSP, Taylor Marshall and CMTV. Sacred Heart Church Location: 1020 Capitol Ave - Fort Wayne, IN 46806 Mass Time: Sun 11:30 am Phone number: (219) 744-2519 Priest: Fr Daniel Leeuw This is rich: Voris mentioning those who dont really know very much at all about the SSPX as he gets even the most basic facts completely wrong. http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/f072_DivMercy.htm. Nicholson) with the SSPX marks him out as, Im afraid, something of a fanatic. Furthermore, Ive been informed that Fr. Im pretty much thinking the same thing. Catholic families (WITH CHILDREN) have broken up because the FSSP Priest told Catholics they were not licitly married because they were married by a SSPX Priest. Post Falls, ID General Chaplain Father Stefan Reiner. Omaha, NE With only a vague sense of her origins and history, and an anemic experience with the institutional aspect of the Church, many Catholics indeed tend to view the Church as a sum of commands and rules, imposing a morality that they find outdated or even impossible. God. Search. It may seem ironic, but I have zero tolerance for that. I used to think my family would grow out of it. The Church is in a grave crisis, and we all have to make our own way for the sake of our souls and those of our families. Terry, for his part, quickly took on what my friend called his own jihad against the SSPX shortly thereafter. Priest Training Workshops Think of it as pulling back the curtain on the little man of OZ (Voris). addressed to TWN, To spread this kind of crap (totally unsubstantiated) around for thousands to read is sinful. Regardless of how we categorize the post-conciliar popes, the Traditional movement is best served by sticking together. They are within the Church. Richard M, ), Even though Im not real keen on the idea of expending a great deal of energy parsing the criticisms of a man who is so clearly motivated by an agenda that has nothing whatsoever to do with seeking and telling the truth. Simon Harkins, FSSP as we begin the conversation on August 31st, featuring a fascinating interview with Abby Johnson on her pro-life work and her recent discovery of the beauty of the sacred liturgy. Ill leave it to you to decide if the jihadist with the cash in hand played a part in influencing Voris to reinvent himself. SEND FLOWERS. Chesapeake, VA Refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff by the Society can be seen in their refusal to reconcile and place themselves under the authority of the Vicar of Christ, rejecting his dogmatically defined full power of shepherding, ruling and governing the universal Church, a power ordinary and immediate over all the churches and over each and every member of the faithful.. Indeed we are often victims of true prejudice-marginalized as lunatics, bazaare, on the fringe or fringe groups, etc. Omaha, NE This side of eternity, there will always be a certain obscurity to Faith because God wishes that we walk in trust of Him; He wants to lead us because our sanctification is His work with our cooperation. Let Voris live in his blissful world. Mr. David McWhirter, FSSP ('12), are all set to join the priesthood, with three other alumni becoming deacons as well. All of us have a duties as Catholics. You said it much better than I. I was immediately attacked when I posted a response. Those who think this group is the anti-christ will not be moved from that position. You are remeniscent of the UBS Executive in the Classic Satire, Network, having turned Michael Voris into Howard Beale and all the Innanity which followed. Grega's departure from the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter could have been given. FSSP NA on YouTube Charity is not spelled luv. S testigo de la experiencia de la. Thank you. Falling away from the Church is falling away from love of a Person, a veritable running away from the home Christ built. I think, as does Michael Matt, that the FSSP priests each have their own reasons for their actions in these dangerous times as they attempt to carry out their duties of saving souls. Looking at what happened at Fisher Moore College in the light of the attacks from Voris this week and in the light of the attacks on Father Gruner the night of his death by Father Paul Nicholson this is all clearly a manifestation of the demonic. I had already decided (in agreement with you) to stay away from CMTV and T. Marshall. Saguto FSSP on Saturday, October 7, 2017. Such initiatives and efforts need not be tiresome, but the sacrifice that goes into being thoughtful and present has a cost, be it in personal time or convenience. This is my weak attempt at trying to make things easier for new readers etc to understand the different positions. Increasingly, Voriss obsession (which apparently is driven in some way by his backers, Mr. Carroll and Fr. I have a great devotion to our lords most sacred heart i go mass first fridays make a few holy hours in the week recite the litany of sacred heart etc , i kept coming across the argument , its replacing devotion to the sacred heart which in my case wasnt true. Dear de Maria, First of all whatever myself or others comment here does not mean that this is louies position or that he even agrees with the comment. It helps to know who is on our team though, doesnt it? The details of this local conflict arent important, but what is important to know is that Fr. That said, no Catholic at any time ought ever to turn their back on another Catholic. dear salvemur, We assume they are coming from a position of the Faithbut theyre not. Mr. Miguel Flores-Perez ('02), and Rev. We start to get sloppy; our fallen tendency to search out the path of least resistance becomes more insistent. The reason I feel that way, my2cents, is because Ive held the position for decades, hence- bc of the timeframe-in my early years of mothering I met some of the original laity & priests who held the position (who BTW shall at this time remain nameless.) Prior to working at CNA, she was the managing web editor of Townhall.com; she has a BA in. I dont remember reading anywhere that Sr. Lucy said that diabolical disorientation would be the sole purview of liberals or modernists. Hello: I am a sedevacantist. Gerard Saguto, FSSP and Fr. And we must distinguish between the two. For this reason Catholics must be wary of them. IMHO that, along with Verrecchios exhilarating writing style make this site what is-a meeting place to ignite the thinking process. Im sure some people reading this comment section of louies fine blog will be scratching their heads thinking so many different opinions on the same topic whats it all about.. Im not talking about those who comment but readers of louies blog who might just be coming across these topics for the first time. arochial Vicar and Assistant Pastor; a man who Mr. Carroll clearly idolized. Apr 20, 2020. He is in control, and our fidelity in things both small and large is what obtains for us the supernatural insights into His very life and designs. Will you also look at the links I posted above? SAGUTO - Michael D., on June 12, 2009 of Syosset, NY. rich, you bring up an important subject, if you will, when you mention the mans evasiveness regarding serious matters of Faith. Christ asks His Apostles. Well, Im not basing what I say on Marshall I have good friends who were there, too, on staff (though their opinions and mine do not perfectly coincide on this affair, I should add). I do encourage more investigation and I hope Justice is somehow given to all those harmed by the take down of Fisher More College. Im curious as to why hes no longer in charge (though im not surprised). These three priests will raise the total number . The glad tidings of Christmas should be obvious to anyone who believes. . SOLEMNMASS Fr. De maria. The FSSP constitutions in 2003 bound the FSSP to the document that contains lies and heresy. It doesnt take a Sherlock Holmes to connect the dots, folks. Nashua, NH FORT WAYNE. Wolfe) said earlier: Schism is not something that comes into being by a legal declaration. http://iconicjesus.org/home/category/objections-to-divine-mercy-sunday/. If sedevacantist friends or family have done that to you, or anyone, its a shame. And then theres Archbishop Lefebvre, who was more than willing to work within diocesan and canonical frameworks when he erected the SSPX, and asked for nothing more than that when he met with Paul VI. Fr. With regard to the heresy of Modernism running rampant & the Modernist Sect of which Bergoglio is head which occupies what were once Catholic parishes, it takes weeks, months, years to comprehend all that. Schedule is subject to changes. There is enough hurt going around from anti-Catholics both outside and inside the Church, without throwing daggers at each other. Views and opinions expressed in the Missive are solely the writers and do not necessarily reflect those of the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter. Michael Voris right now has a post up attacking the SSPX and he directly links to the FSSP site in Scotland and names Father John Emerson FSSP. Will the FSSP issue a public statement in support of the SSPX and debunk the schism myth? No need to be so defensive i wrote a short paragraph to explain things to people who read the blog and comments. The rest would be for a forum. I say that sincerely, recognizing my own faults and shortcomings which may have led to giving this false impression. Gerard Saguto, FSSP was born and lived on Long Island, where his mother continues to live. I too have been guilty of using the combox to lay off my personal frustrations, and I have also used uncharitable language. Things had got worse since 1970 and the SSPX Was trying to compromise its previous postion on the council with rome order to be accepted by rome. Saguto (FSSPDistrict Superior) 31 May 4:30pm St. Victor Church in Hollywood (Los Angeles) ORGANPROCESSIONAL Organist: Meaghan King 120. Mine is no1. LiveMass.Net Whether you believe the Pope IS the Pope (but in grave error and behaving as a Heretic) or the Pope IS NOT the Pope (for the same reasons), the fact remains that we are all suffering Catholics, striving to restore what is birthright membership through Baptism in the True Church of Christthe Holy, Roman Catholic Church. Hesse, a full-bodied Catholic figure who has dropped into obscurity far too quickly. Loving father of Michael,Ginamarie Lutzky and Father Gerard Saguto, FSSP. ** This is the price for full communion, but the truth remains that all three of these things (the Novus Ordo, the Council and the shenanigans of the popes) represent a grave danger to souls. Which means that because these others dont beleive certain things it gets people start to say you shiuldnt believe this or that. The Society operates from the standpoint of speaking Catholic truth in the face of every attack regardless of the source. When I noticed, however, that his more recent talks include the subjects of Sr. Faustina and divine mercy in a favorable light, I turned him off. To me, devotion to the false divine mercy devotion of Sr. Faustina is an excellent indicator of how modernist a priest is. Joliet, IL But with any worthwhile risk comes the true opportunity for growth: a gaining of self-knowledge, peace, perspective, and competency. Gruner were very sensational to say the least. Voris, by contrast, runs every last word through a filter; avoiding anything that might conflict with more personal concerns; the likes of which well address a little later. I know that you ask in sincerity, Ive read you for some time & admire you. I thank God daily for them. But thats definitely not the position of the SSPX. Am speaking only for myself their back on another Catholic a veritable running away from love a. Attacked when i posted above Saints - big red flag! ) been fr saguto, fssp search the. 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